19:07:17 Yeah, can see nothing. Yeah. 19:07:25 Okay, welcome to this anti-capitalist resistance meeting about psychoanalysis and liberation. 19:07:31 I'm in Parker and I work as a cyclist in Manchester. anti-capitalist resistance is a fairly new organization, bringing together revolutionary marxists from different traditions of work and committed to learning from the 19:07:47 voices of the oppressed, and attending to the way that oppression works its way into all of us. 19:07:54 A cycle. Analysis is one way of addressing that issue, though it too often only focuses on individual change, often reducing problems of living in this wretched capitalist society to what we feel about it. 19:08:10 So to link psychoanalysis and liberation is to open up again the question of how political change is inter woven with personal change. 19:08:23 As we change the world, we transform ourselves. We richly planned this meeting as an encounter between force speakers with our comrade, Neil Faulkner, who did so much to build anti-capitalist resistance as one of 19:08:39 the participants. Neil, who died earlier this year was respected archaeologist at historian as well as being a revolutionary Marxist, and he was very interested in psychoanalysis. 19:08:53 In fact, his last book, published by Resistance books, is called Mind Fuck, The Mass Psychology of Creeping Fascism. 19:09:03 We had some discussion about the title, but Neil was insistent that this book, which uses cycle analysis to explore the depth of our misery under capitalism in crisis, must name what capitalism? 19:09:17 Does to us. It fucks us up. Neil is a powerful presence still in this meeting, and we are in some ways in dialogue with Neil as well as building a dialogue within between our guest speakers neil 19:09:34 insisted in his book 9 Fuck on some aspects of the connection between psychoanalysis and politics that are really important. 19:09:43 Live issues. His argument was that just as marxism is a scientific approach that can borrow back into history, even into archaeology, to show us how we've traveled from slavery to feudalism and to capitalism, so 19:10:00 psychoanalysis is a scientific approach to personal distress, and so it can be applied as a tool of understanding. 19:10:09 Alongside noxism. Okay, If he was listening to us today, which is not, he was an atheist, I would ask again whether this is really the case. 19:10:22 Neil. Is it not the case that Marxism was developed under capitalism to specifically understand capitalist society and overthrow it? 19:10:30 And is it not the case that psychoanalysis, which only developed under capitalism, describes and treats the kinds of alienated beings that we are now under this political economic system? 19:10:44 Well, no, Neil would say. we need to learn from psychoanalysis to deepen our understanding of marxism, and there's something universal and scientific in those twin approaches to personal depression and political oppression. 19:11:00 Well, these are some aspects of the debate aspects of the connection aspects of the theory and practice of psychoanalysis that we need to be thinking about. 19:11:10 If we're to connect psychoanalysis with liberation and to deepen that debate and learn about different forms of connection, we have 2 guests to speak to us and discuss with us today one of our guest speakers Laura 19:11:24 Shi Hi is a clinical cycleologist who works psychoanalytically and has been involved in a detailed clinical political research project with Palestinian and colleagues which is written about in her co-authored 19:11:39 book Psychoanalysis under occupation probably practicing resistance in Palestine. 19:11:47 There isn't one psychoanalysis but many and pastestinian psychoanalytic activists on a range of different theoretical approaches. 19:11:56 But one figure is a kind of anchor point in that book. 19:12:01 The Martini Can Algerian revolutionary psychiatrist France final? 19:12:08 This front final is a key figure making connections between personal and political liberation in the context of anti-colonial anti-racist struggle final, would with the front deliberacy. 19:12:22 On National, the Fln in Algeria, and in 1956. 19:12:28 He resigned from his post at one of the psychiatric hospitals in Algeria, to move to Tunis, to work for full time with the Flm. 19:12:37 And the Algerian liberation struggle final is Some would say, the Lenin of Africa, and more than that Enron's work draws on psychoanalysis to show the depth of racism how racism is 19:12:52 embedded in the unconscious lives of oppressors and the press. 19:12:56 He's book, Black skin white masks is a classic exploring Racism cycle, and his book Wretched of the Earth. 19:13:07 That's a title taken from the original words in French of the Internationality caused a furory in France. 19:13:13 Whether it was banned. This is revolutionary anti-colonial psychoanalysis, and that's. 19:13:18 Why it underpins Laura shihi's work. 19:13:24 Our other guest Speaker Alicia about this is a psychoanalytic social theorist who draws on another key. 19:13:31 Psychoanalytic writer who is sometimes seen, as on the left, the French psychoanalyst Jack Lacon. 19:13:40 And here we have a problem, because lacon mixed with Marxists mainly Maoists. 19:13:46 But he was not on the left, and there is some wishful thinking among some who write books with titles like the Lacanian left. 19:13:55 At least you have all this takes these arguments on in an intersectional way, interlinking questions of the left in Lacon's psychoanalysis with questions of gender a feminism 19:14:09 Alicia's just published book is called toward the feminist, Lacanian, left cyclolytic theory and interceptional politics, and one thing she has to tackle is a deep contradiction in 19:14:22 lacon's work on the one hand feminists have pointed out the lacons shift of attention to language instead of the traditional and usually reactionary talk of instincts and biologically wired in ages 19:14:39 and stages of development of the personality opens the way to history. To change that shift of attention to language opens up to change. 19:14:53 The Socialist feminist, Juliet Mitchell, for example, argued that psychoanalysis provides a description. 19:15:00 Patriarchy, not a recommendation for one, and Lacon takes that description forward and deepens it. 19:15:09 On the other hand, is the other side of the contradiction is that Lacon and later Lecanian psychoanalysts have often have their own fixed way of describing sexual difference, and that means not only but there's some kind of 19:15:26 idealization of women that doesn't do the many favors, but also an obsession with gender binaries of men as always everywhere like this, and women as always everywhere like that so not so much room for history but change in 19:15:42 that binary account. So you need a feminist psychoanalysis to make Lacon useful, and that's what Alicia? 19:15:54 All this gives us question we need to take forward, though, is how we can integrate or link the these anti-colonial anti-racist arguments that we get from final and the feminist intersectional arguments We can dig 19:16:09 out of Lacon with anti-capitalists struggle. 19:16:13 What, for example, can we say about the way that alienation and exploitation gets inside us, and the way that, as Neil Faulkner puts it, capitalism foxes up? 19:16:24 How can we link these arguments to call combat and transcend mind? 19:16:30 Fuck Is psychoanalysis useful? here? Is it really part of liberation struggle? 19:16:36 And so, if it is, what do we do about the role of psychoanalysis as an expensive talking cure? 19:16:43 Something out of the reach of working people, something developed in the West that white men chatter about when they talk about the unconscious and speculate about what we're all repressing on. 19:16:57 Whose terms are we going to work with cycle analysis? How are we gonna do that? 19:17:04 Laura and Alicia have read neil's book, and I want to ask them questions which I touched on in my book on Radical Cycle, analysis and anti-capitalist action published by Resistance books the full 19:17:17 text is online Anti-capitalist Resistance but let's get going. 19:17:24 Laura and Alicia have seen a book as well as Niels. 19:17:27 I've seen each other's books so we've got the basis for a good project. 19:17:32 It's the closest to a four-way dialogue that we can get. 19:17:37 Now I don't want to take up more time Let's take apart these questions in discussion. after listening first to Laura Shi. 19:17:48 Hi! Laura will speak for about 15 min and then at least. See about this. 19:17:54 We'll then have a few minutes break 50 to gather your thoughts and open up to questions and discussion. 19:18:01 So I want to hand over now to lara to speak if You're there, Laura. 19:18:10 This is Thank you so much. and and I'm Hopeful, I can do the space justice and of course Neil, his revolutionary spirit. 19:18:44 I'm gonna try and stay close to the 15 min Mark, so I have some notes. 19:18:48 Some of it will be read, some of it will be speaking off the couple. So i'm i'm hopeful I can rain it in, because there's so much to say, and certainly so much for us to get into first and foremost, 19:18:59 I I wanna know, and acknowledge and I'm speaking to you from the stolen land of the Massachusetts people, and this is an active acknowledgement that's merely a starting point for 19:19:09 the land back efforts that psychoanalysis must be a part of if we take any liberation practice seriously. 19:19:17 This is the focus on material realities of politics, and our role in centering this, all of which is seen in the books discussed today similarly, and is always a loving recognition of all our siblings, who are political prisoners 19:19:34 including the 5 Palestinian heroes, who showed us how spoons can be stronger than an apartheid settler. 19:19:41 Colonial regime, all of whom also just got punished. 19:19:44 Further for daring to refuse their unjust incarceration, to move me up. 19:19:50 Good Jamal and Leonard Peltier, and countless others, under the crush of the carceral machine of the settler calling of the United States, and to our Arab Lebanese brother Communist militant George 19:20:01 Abdullah in the imperial jaws. 19:20:03 France and to all the others, and cycle analysis must be a central part of that. 19:20:10 This is part of my call to us today. a call fortified by the brilliant militancy of these books, and, of course, of Neil's career and struggle today. 19:20:23 My talk is about Palestine, but I want to be clear. 19:20:27 Our struggles are linked. block liberation, latinx liberation, and I'm, of course, holding in mind in the context of the United States, the 2 deadly mass shootings that have just happened a week part indigenous liberation 19:20:42 translibration, disabled liberation, and so forth. These are the crevices that should be our overlapping points of struggle. 19:20:52 But back to my focus today, and why Ian invited me to be a part of this. 19:20:58 My talk today. well can't even begin to cover the magnitude of the Liberty work being done in Palestine by righteous Palestinian comrades and colleagues. 19:21:10 But it will begin to sketch in Tandem with Neil's book, Ian's book and Vietnamese book that we must center not just include a center Palestine and our struggle for liberation 19:21:24 Palestine, a central space and place of liberty potential. 19:21:30 A feminist stream hold an anticapist and abolitionist space of material realities, and as my partner and co-oper, Stephen Shihi, says, a site of the d colonial, now not of the future, but 19:21:43 of the now briefly, and in keeping with the ways that our book links up with these others. 19:21:51 Today. Our the books I can ask is under occupation, takes up the following points specifically, and I mean 19:21:59 Sketch them briefly, and if anybody has any follow up points, or Ian, if you'd like to to flush out more, please feel free to ask me. 19:22:07 So our book takes up primarily the ways in which Palestinians, clinical psychologists, and clinicians, Palestinians. 19:22:15 Our comrades work towards this alienation, and this again is a sort of how can not only to to marks, but to phenomenon, individually and collectively, in the clinic and on the street and here the most important 19:22:32 part is what we learned over and over and over again the importance of not succumbing to misleading claims, of splitting right. 19:22:39 The way in which psycholytic theory is mobilized to to retain a split between the clinic industry. and this is the thread that I saw throughout these books today. 19:22:52 Our Palestinian comrades do that job beautifully of not collapsing the space, and not splitting and succumbing, but rather saying, there is no separation between the clinic and the street when you're living 19:23:04 under set their colonial apartheid secondly We're, interested in sort of took up the question of how our Palestinian comrades and colleagues excavate life and live live ability to quote notedish and hoop 19:23:19 covered, can, who, I believe, is also in our presence today. 19:23:24 Thank you for being here happy today. Here I started to think about as I read these books and just be centered, and there's something so beautiful about connecting to comrades who are doing radical work, and my my partner can sort of attest 19:23:37 to this the the intellectual nourishment that's in this, but also the radical nourishment, because we know that we're atomized and sort of our siloed off so to read all of them together I started to 19:23:49 get this sense that what also our comrades and colleagues in Palestine were doing is insisting rather than dissociating right, is it? 19:24:00 What's associating as a symptom of capitalist enterprise or settler. 19:24:05 Colonial reality bending is rather they were reassociating relinking remake remaining linked up in the communal and social processes that are the center point of what we'd call the Palestinian 19:24:17 Memphis, right Palestinian being Palestinian selfhood, so resisting and refusing the calls to dissociate the calls to bend reality, that a settler colonial regime is insistent on the only way a 19:24:30 settler colonial regime can be viable is, if the people, under its crush, also dissociate the violence done to them every day in our Palestinian colleagues show us time and again the ways in which they engage in a 19:24:42 process of a reassociating rather than dissociating the other point. 19:24:49 We were looking at is how Palestinian clinical practice is a constant battle to work, to personal and collective desalination under step. 19:24:59 Their colonialism. So again, the centering of settler colonialism as the condition much like set centering capitalism as the condition right, the th, the sort of contours of aggressive and oppressive structures, as being 19:25:15 the site of our focus, and the ways in which people engage in the resistance and their liberty practice, regardless of the pressures. 19:25:24 And nest fixiatory points that are put upon them. 19:25:28 Under these conditions for Palestine. it's a collective and personal desalination struggle, and under settler colonialism. 19:25:38 I wanna make a point here, and this is what we try to weave throughout. 19:25:41 The book is that the battle, that battle to work to personal and collective desalination is this symptom of the condition, not an essential failure of Palestinians. 19:25:53 It's important and brought home so beautifully in these books that we read for today, and sort of are taking up today when they speak to the conditions of capitalism. 19:26:03 What capitalism produces. But this is what settler colonial produces a conflict, but not a psychoanalytic one. 19:26:12 Like Ian brings our our focus to and what because it's not a conflict that actually is continuously done and readone, and has the possibility to be resolved through meaning making, but rather a conflict that has 4 close 19:26:27 possibilities, because it follows the logics of settler colonialism, the basis of which is the eraser and eradication of indigenous people. 19:26:35 In this case Palestinians, as long as we're working with 4 closed possibilities, which is the central piece of settler colonialism. 19:26:43 Then we cannot actually have a viable state for conflict in the ways that Ian calls our attention to. 19:26:48 That is central to a liberatory society, a conflict that's necessary for liberation. 19:26:54 For example, another point our book takes up is then necessity for those of us engaged in liberatory struggle to support Palestinians, and to work against the calls and the seductions of pathologizing the will to live and to be 19:27:14 liberated, and then but wanna say that again to depthologize the will to live and to be liberated, and those of us here might be like Well, how would how would one be pathologizing that? And it's casual? 19:27:29 As much as it is systemic to pathologize the Palestinian will to liberation. The Palestinian will to life the Palestinian will to presence, and we're we see that actively over the last several weeks of course, 19:27:43 with assassination of Shitty and Blackley, who dared speak to the realities on the ground, and who is assassinated for speaking to the realities on the ground. 19:27:53 And these are the ways, big and small. that liberation will to live is pathologized, and psychoanalysis does that actively, also pathologize by insisting on a docile subject, by insisting on people who are 19:28:05 rational by insisting on dialogue these are the ways in which we will fully and indirectly pathologize the will to be to live in, to be liberated and in this case in palestine there's 19:28:17 a pathologization happening on uncestral land. Palestinians are the indigenous people to Palestine. 19:28:24 All of Palestine, not just the west bank in Gaza. 19:28:29 So part of what we knock out through the book is this: will to live as a Palestinian, as willful subjects, not as passive subjects, not as people who accidentally fall upon their liberation, but as people who are 19:28:42 actively involved in their liberation process and I think we hear We're calling on also Sarah a month's work about willful subjectivity, and how that links up with the will to live in Palestine part of that deep pathologization 19:29:01 and understanding Palestinians as wellful subjects, is also to understand the ways in which Palestinians are invited, and often conscripted by us by being the confusion mongers that fed on remind us about as 19:29:16 clinicians to understand that we collaborate with certain forms of humanism that psychoanalysis represents and presents as universal and a political at once right. 19:29:31 One of the positions we take in our book, and we call the psychoanalytic innocence is that these politics of demanding that Palestinians be complicit and complacent and silent in their suffering 19:29:46 is actually constituted to the cyclonic theory and practice that we see today is not accidental, that the theory is utilized and weaponized, pathologize the world to live, but rather becomes constitutive of that as it 19:30:00 stands and of course here. I'm remembering conversation we had with our friend Nada, and comrade, and talking about how it's psychoanalysis that's actually under occupation. 19:30:10 It's not palestinians it's psychoanalysis, and it it's upon us to kind of confront and push up against the ways in which Cyclon, with innocence much like white 19:30:20 innocence much like September moves to innocence. 19:30:23 Both tuck and Yang speak about that. And then Gloria Walker talks about white, in a sense. 19:30:26 How these things come together to create psychoanalytic innocence. 19:30:33 Another point that I wanted to highlight is how the work of costing include clinicians might seem to us disaggregated throughout Palestine, because simpler colonial logic of the state now known as Israel works to have 19:30:48 us understand Palestine as fragmented that fragmentation is an ideological imposition, and that's again, the way that I feel like this links up with Ian's work with meals work with an atheist work is this understanding 19:31:03 of how ideology works to present a certain organic structure that we then take on as normative, that we link up with it, and we go about, go upon our daily lives thinking. 19:31:15 This is just natural right, and so the natural implications of settler colonialism, as it's enacted to the state now known as Israel, is also to understand Palestine as fragmented and not contiguous however, 19:31:32 in our interaction with Palestinian clinicians throughout historic Palestine, we realized very quickly, and through the ways in which they link up with each other and refuse this partition refuse this disconnect refuse 19:31:45 atomization, which is a word that also came up again and again across these books is that they're practice individually and collectively. 19:31:54 Phone, the backbone of the material reality and the fact right material. 19:32:03 And the fact that Palestine is not only real and present but also united. 19:32:09 It's a united palestine under the veneer of a settler colonial condition, and this is what in our book we call the Psychotherapeutic Commons, a space in which our Palestinian comrades and 19:32:23 Clinician friends defy the partition of set their colonialism to come together as a unit unified front. 19:32:31 In what network of clinicians, practicing psychoanalytically in defiance of set the colonialism violence. 19:32:39 And here I was reminded, when I read neil's book and work about his discussion about families, and how families come to be right sort of disaggregated and look like their individual units, and something that he says which I love and I think 19:32:53 this matches up with the psychotherapy of Commons. 19:32:57 He calls and says, All these processes should be collectivized. 19:33:02 The processes of the family should be collectivized. Of course you can extrapolate and the family to the nation, state, and so on. 19:33:09 Another point that our book tries to make. Is it in interrupting political conditions and social relations of settler colonialism under which Palestinian clinicians live. 19:33:20 They there's an articulation of healthy subjectivity and practices that shore up Palestinian identity and identity. 19:33:30 It is inextricable to their lives and their claim to Palestine and the land right. 19:33:36 This claim to Palestine in the land. and How this integrally woven with identity and subjectivity, and willfulness is also why it must be silenced right? 19:33:49 And here i'm thinking about a quote from ian's book, and i'm just gonna say it's on page 20 to 21 a society that has forbidden freedom of speech will be suspicious of what might 19:33:58 be spoken about and inside psychoanalysis, in case it spills out into the open end. 19:34:05 Quote, and time and again we saw exactly of Israeli supervisors silencing not only their Palestinian supervisors, but also the patients themselves. 19:34:17 And we understood this as a way in which a fear of what that Palestinian speaking subject might say about the reality and the material conditions is set. 19:34:26 Their colonial. The final point that i'll take up today. so that I can be silent and listen to Alethia. 19:34:36 Is that our Palestinian colleagues and comrades disrupt sector colonial legitimacy by defying settler colonial enclosures to share and create knowledge across palestine they in this way. 19:34:54 They disrupt, perhaps what Neil would call narcissistic authoritarianism right by disrupting and defying the enclosures that are meant to keep them separate that are meant to keep them atomized. 19:35:06 And it also disrupts the process of what Ian says in his book about wiping away history. 19:35:12 That part of what happens is not only a discrete of what might be a healthy practice if communality in the present, but part of what these logics also do is wipe away history right? 19:35:24 This is the way that the settler can then become the native there's so much more to say. 19:35:33 But here's where i'll end today and i'm really looking forward to our continuing conversation years ago, I wrote a manifesto, and those of you who know me might be like of course, tomorrow. 19:35:47 You wrote a manifesto and presented it at a second number of conference. 19:35:51 The manifesto was called. The road to psychoanalysis runs through Jerusalem. 19:35:56 This is never been more true than today, as we witness both the site of violence and eclipse. 19:36:02 But more importantly, the site of life, life, force in the Manifesto. 19:36:09 I said at that time quote Liberate Palestine with psychoanalysis end quote. 19:36:15 I meant it then, but I was also taking a deliberate stance. 19:36:19 Still saturated with relationality to normative psychoanalysis. 19:36:24 Today my stance is slightly different, but no less militant. 19:36:29 It centers what Ian says in his book, 8 8 part that I will take with me forever. 19:36:35 And this is what he says. He says: we do not release or express stuff in a revolution. 19:36:41 We create it in this way what i'm saying today is about an Abolitionist present, as much as it is about abolitionist futures. 19:36:53 Liberation is our struggle. Palestine and Jerusalem are the center. 19:36:58 Psychoanalysis can come along if it wants to. 19:37:02 It could be one of many tools to use towards liberation, but it itself is not the site of liberation. 19:37:10 The people are Palestine is, and we must join them. 19:37:15 Thank you. 19:37:19 Thanks, Laura. My God! how many questions are there in there? 19:37:25 How many issues Have you raised that we're not gonna let go that's that's absolutely fantastic. 19:37:31 Thank you. Okay, we kind of we're gonna take alicia next. 19:37:36 Then I have a few minutes to think about these issues and come back in in together, in discussion. 19:37:44 So I want to ask Alicia to come in and speak. 19:37:49 Now Hi, Alice here! Oh, that was that was great! that 19:37:59 So I hope, I say at least something interesting to be. Oh, no! 19:38:06 As your webinar right now. first of all i'd like to thank. I am bargain, and also the rest of the organization for having me here today. 19:38:14 What sounds Bathya says is Zoombrailo blah blah blah! 19:38:17 Is that a Gilli? I think it is really necessary to contextualize my talk to say somehow, yes, as as let us. okay. 19:38:30 I was reading the messages. Sorry i'm speaking from Katalonia, and I just got a message. 19:38:37 How about a new loving past? In the Spanish Parliament? 19:38:41 The law is called solo cse, which is about a sexual and representative rights as well as sexual violence. 19:38:50 And the law was passed, but the right and the extreme right voted against. 19:38:58 So I I thought that I had to say it because we are not really bad situation. 19:39:01 Now elections are coming up this year we'll have elections in *, and, there's the both are not saying anything good as extreme ride has a lot of power, and we'll have national level elections to 19:39:15 this next year as well. we are kind of struggling with the fake news and and all this, and I thought that I had to say it because the the talk I'm going to be giving today is really inspired by current events in 19:39:31 Spain, and also like anarchism. i'm writing a new book on Content. 19:39:36 But i'm and I thought that it would be good to to let you know about about this. 19:39:43 I would also like to apologize for any misunderstanding that my pronouncement may cost a single system. 19:39:52 My first language, and this is the reason why I also decided to read some notes, and these notes are kind of the result from reading the 4 books that bring us together today, and you have kind of like 2 parts in my in my talk their first one 19:40:09 is trying to connect or relate the books, and then answer to to the question that is approaching me lately. 19:40:18 That is cool. Are we approaching as a revolutionary subject? 19:40:23 And how can we approach more people trying to expand the left to say somehow, in this sense, i'd like to point out that Well, these these books introduce different approaches toward political practice, but they are all situated on the under 19:40:42 umbrella of psychological theory. This, I believe, relates to the fact that all others understand that you study of the functioning of unconscious is by looks to understanding identifications with the system. 19:40:56 But more importantly, sees hypothalysis as a potential instrument for political revolution. 19:41:02 Something that Larry has been talking about, and I wanted to quote here Laura and Stephen, and I quote, Should I psychoanal? 19:41:09 Well, this is a quote by one of the psychologists that was interviewed. 19:41:12 I think you go student psychoanalysis via mechanism for social and political mobilization. 19:41:18 If the first true goal is to send to the suffering of the patient and of code. The psychoanalysis is an instrument with much potential for political revolution is the central element in ends. 19:41:31 Book Radical psychoanalysis and his work offered with and Wi-fi however, we all. 19:41:41 I again convert in observing how psych analysis can be apologized, used by the androcentric and racist system, and taken away from those with force. 19:41:51 Material conditions colleagues correct and also avoid developing its revolutionary potential. 19:41:58 This critique he's also present in katherine Clement's book, The What he sounds of Freud i'm a spin on that we can't find out in psychoanalysis and revolution and I 19:42:09 quote type. analysis was once explicitly allied to the left. 19:42:14 Now it often up operates as a tool of adaptation. end of code. 19:42:17 How can we, then break this adap, adapt to team pattern and the safering capacity of capitalism to transfer revolutionary tools into individual and commodified Adams? 19:42:31 I believe that both my book and Latin Stevens book. 19:42:34 So how decolonizing and deeper charging psychological theory is not needed. I slad out. I'm Steve and I stayed in their book, and I quote again in the psychology and psychoanalysis within 19:42:48 it has often been a means of control, and the humanization of the disenfranchised colonial subjects to port. 19:42:56 People of color and sexual and minorities and of course in this sense the question that i'd like to wrote today, and the title of this text is, Whom are we approaching as the revolutionized subject, and i'd like to 19:43:07 focus my analysis on to the mentors of of this active with the gender and age. 19:43:13 Just because I think that those have the devices that I could talk from from this that we thought of We send Spanish from this Teddy Toddi that I have it like Why, is He, also speak I would also speak about 19:43:30 how we may approach subjects that are not situated within the left within the left side of the ideological spectrum. 19:43:40 First. i'd like to start just is speaking about gender and age as a young female scholar. 19:43:48 My ring off of neil's book, mine fog could not avoid the analysis of the selected by biography, in which we may observe the presence of kind of hard me, as the only female. 19:44:00 In this sense I believe that the lack of gender Dc dance in the theoretical course of the Google can only lead to the construction of the revolution at agent that may not embrace none. 19:44:09 Understand drink subjects, and that we must also be in mind that the revolution, led by such agent, may not avoid an androcentric andatical bias in the horizon horizon that it draws. 19:44:23 It is autistending that the analysis he he does. 19:44:29 He develops a great analysis of from conceptualization of love. 19:44:33 But avoid, from the relation with the feministializations of their networks. 19:44:38 Oh, for books criticically address analysis that leave behind the social and material conditions at the same time that Rabbin decayed and necessary to approach them in individual sessions of psychoanalysis. 19:44:51 So probably they race it up. this Vcpc. of the step in her book or in their book. 19:44:56 Larry Stephen also explain. and I called we critique, both of trauma victim paradigm and the political resilience paradigm. 19:45:05 That's okay. Palestinian subjects of the into awards, general sexual politics, material conditions and label contacts end of quote. 19:45:14 However, this, double movement towards social conditions, some personal distress leaves us in a constant tension of individual and collective practices. 19:45:24 However, at the same time we all argue against the individualization of the stress. 19:45:30 This critique against the Commons in the utilization and optimization, fragmentation and the dismemberment. 19:45:35 It's a common element in both the colonial and family's theory. 19:45:44 While we all approach this particular individualization, I consider it relevant to mental health. 19:45:47 Such a process has been also conceptualized as a process of masculineization. 19:45:51 But different feminist offers, for example, Samba, though, are used as they got the the Cartesian turn of the subject. 19:45:59 How will look at certain to to the subject concept in place, a muscularization of such a subject. 19:46:06 This lack of connection between the subject, the other and the cosmos is also denounced by Caroline Merchant in her group. 19:46:13 The death of nature, we see, profoundly analyzes the transformation of European cosmology into a violent and anxious need for control and power. 19:46:22 That is to say, that that's 1 2 or the transformation into cosmology from cosmology. 19:46:28 But it works. But let's work on bodily ontology, interdependence, and political alliances, as also points out to this fake idea of individuality in a radical manner. 19:46:43 Thus I believe that erasing the gender nature of the new liberal subject can only both the generation of a revolution that is subject that has experience in a different manner. 19:46:52 Matters of individuality and independence when it comes to care under productive work. 19:46:57 On the other hand, the second I mentioned that I wanted to brows e approach is 8. This is due to the generational gap between me in my late twenties, and if you're taking a work of other generations as well like 19:47:13 for example, in classical anarchism or contemporary, and our Kism as well. 19:47:17 One of the fields in which I find the most divergence is the the work that relates to the sections around the use of technology, the Internet and some networks fault. 19:47:34 Let me, seems to differentiate between digital and offline, practice and identification. 19:47:41 But your generations and you theorizations. I speak of these offline online spaces as a continuum Sunday space. 19:47:51 In the sense following some of the ideas. So I wanted to introduce also the work that neona keys on and feminist me on our keys are are developing on this the massive venue is from from cataluna He has this 19:48:09 one quote that he wanted to share with you after travel for some time against the guardians of the Temple; that is to say, those who want to be self- anchism in the exact money in which they inherited it running 19:48:20 the risk of super kidding it and avoiding each revolution. 19:48:25 Evolution. In fact, exuberant vitality of *speaker overlap* has swept those who, full of love towards it, pretended to embound it for better protection. 19:48:35 What this mistake now is contributing to impulse the new anarchism that is developing in front of us. 19:48:40 And of course, in this sense I believe that this information is also also valid when analyzing online political practice. 19:48:48 However, I'm also aware of the risks that fake news fake news, both and other elements present, and 90 cents. 19:48:56 I wanted to introduce an article written by Alina Florida's tilean author, and the article is called Quote Memes Safer Country from fastism. 19:49:09 And in this article probably Paulina introduces some ideas on the use of memes as a tool to find the use of fake news, and by our tweets from the extreme right in the last presidential elections in tile This article 19:49:22 Paulina picks up the distress of having to leave her country, and the bitterness and sadness that comes with the political horizon of fascism, and how those emotions may bring along the dxulation of political activity in 19:49:34 this sense memes are not only a 2 to 5 phones of fake final news, but also 2 of politicians and online organizations. Through the use of an instrument that relies on humor. 19:49:47 I've broken, known as slow and used by the extreme bride Inspector, is illustrated that means fascism is joy. 19:49:55 This is low and discounted post to the Beta attitude attributed to people on the left as constantly set up. 19:50:03 The cmates of the left was also denounced by sincell peers such as enrollment. 19:50:08 She's kind of she attributed the the quote if I got a dance. 19:50:11 This is not my role as soon to congratulate. 19:50:13 That was reproach in the dancing was not revolutionary something that a lot of young people from Abdayala are already pulling in question up again. 19:50:26 His last idea of boardroom or bitterness takes me to the last idea that I wanted to approach this talk. 19:50:32 I need is, how do we relate to those not positions on the left following focus news book. We can understand Fasty some as an irrational position that starts from the absolute negation of certain elements demonstrated by experience it is 19:50:49 a striking and needs to be analyzed. How an ideology that uses fallacies and false data that can be demonstrated as far as through the electrical augmentation, can become a political force of the first level 19:51:01 in societies like ours, Neila fans that the reason why it occupies this front page is without any doubt that millions of people have internalized it. 19:51:14 In this situation we cannot ignore the analysis of how this Internet in internalization takes place, And what are the mental processes that lead a person to identify with this type of ideology? 19:51:25 Hello, there! It is important to emphasize that one of the great mistakes that we are discussing here in Spain that the left has made in its ideological battle against the extreme right has been to label the fanaticals the 19:51:39 dynamics of this radical current as ignorant or mentally ill. 19:51:43 Both qualifications, not only in Kansas, not only against the known approach of these people to the ideas of the left, but more importantly denied the reality of these subjects. 19:51:57 Hindering the possibilities or the possible solution that we could articulate against strategically searching. 19:52:03 But more importantly, a solution to those who can be deep radicalized. 19:52:08 As a matter of fact, then, the internal leads in in Polemos. 19:52:14 That resulted with the case on or indication of the political party must buy. 19:52:17 How's generated the debate on whether the strategy of treating the working class. That votes extreme right as loomb prioritariat is, is is a Is this dancing the left from its potential voters from a 19:52:30 nonpunity of position. We cannot give up the idea that people then change. 19:52:36 That's a way to conclude with a question for further debate at life to introduce some critics to mobilize people, or some ideas to mobilize people when approaching those not ideologically position on the left or young. 19:52:50 People that haven't been introduced into activism. We need, to propose and offer new tools and more attractive mechanisms that do not stigmatize those who we want to approach. 19:53:01 However, we cannot avoid the analysis of nasaism and authoritarianism. 19:53:06 That Neil over sinky school here I believe that psychological theory and therapy from a decolonial I'm feminist abroad intervenes , of therapy are renewed across our 19:53:18 biases of the psychological theory, and a renewed conceptualization of political practice, such as the one developed in May on occasion, can help us create a sufficient large collective subject to save the race office system. 19:53:33 Get up. Yes, ratio, thank you at least here that's really great.